I was trained as a classical musician, and directing choirs was part of that scene. But for most of my professional life, I've been running music-making projects with vulnerable people, and that's the kind of work I'm instinctively drawn to.

When the opportunity to work with Choir with No Name Birmingham came along, I saw it as the perfect way to combine these two worlds - choral work with those who are in some senses 'on the edge'. To be sure, mainstream choirs and choral societies can produce great quality music, but to be honest, I don't think they'd suit me! It's the people that make the Choir with No Name really interesting and fun to be a part of, and I'm really proud to be their conductor.